Which camera is more light sensitive...???

**Alex** · September 20th, 2002, 10:01 PM

A Beaulieu camera that does not divert any light from the film plane to the viewfinder, but shoots at a faster than normal shutter speed, or a camera such as a Canon 1014XLS that has a 220 degree shutter but diverts some light to the viewfinder?

**cameraguy** · September 21st, 2002, 12:58 AM

The Beaulieu 4008 has the equivalent of a 100 degree shutter angle with a 1/85th of a second shutter speed at 24 fps. The Canon set to its 150 degree shutter is 1/60th at 24 fps. Using these cameras under the same lighting the Canon still needs less light even though the Beaulieu uses nearly all the incoming light for the film. I think the Schneider lens seems to eat more light than the Canon lens.

The Beaulieu 5008 on the other hand has a shutter angle equivalent of 150 degrees and its a better lowlight performer than the Canon (set at 150 degrees)

The later Beaulieus 6008 on up also have really fast shutter speeds.

**Alex** · September 21st, 2002, 01:07 AM

The Canon 1014XLS also has a 220 degree setting. How does that compare with the Beaulieu 150 degree setting.

TA152 · September 21st, 2002, 08:14 AM

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**Alex** · September 21st, 2002, 06:49 PM

The Canon 814XLS and 1014XLS both have a knob that can be set to either 150 degrees or 220 degrees. The word option in this case might make some think that it is an "accessory".

Technically, the default shutter setting is your choice depending on which knob position you select.

While the Canon 318 might be slightly more light sensitive, it would appear that the 814XLS and 1014XLS would be right behind with the advantage being an 8-1 and 10-1 zoom lens over the 318's 3-1 zoon lens.

I'm surprised they call the Canon a 318....usually the 318 would mean a 3-1 zoom with an f1.8 lens. To be consistent with the canon line, it should have been called a 310. (3-1 zoom ratio, f1.0 lens)

**cameraguy** · September 22nd, 2002, 12:37 PM

Thats because it is called the 310 XL. The 318 is a late 60's non XL model with 3-1 zoom and 1,8 max aperture. He had them confused or just typed in the wrong number.

TA152 · September 22nd, 2002, 01:01 PM

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**cameraguy** · September 22nd, 2002, 01:11 PM

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Clearly the 220 degree setting is going to be a better lowlight performer than any mirror shuttered Beaulieu "on paper". However, actual tests in lowlight may challenge that assumption.

Based on what i've shot in bright daylight with the Canon 814 XL-S, Beaulieu 4008 and 5008 are that they all look great. The 4008 with the fastest shutter speed is sharpest (some say it strobes too much but I don't). Since I shoot mostly 18 fps I like the 4008 the best as the added sharpness makes it nearly undistinguishable from 24 fps. Plus, I don't know why but the Beaulieu 4008 simply has the best registration in the Super 8 cartridge world (assuming the cartridge isn't defective).